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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;Why most online communities fail&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: jonl</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Aug 2008 13:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wael, one quibble: neither I nor the material quoted above would suggest having a &quot;marketing expert&quot; in charge. The suggestion is to have someone on board who has expertise in community development and management. Marketing professionals - even those who who are associated with &quot;interactive&quot; marketing - usually won&#039;t have the right combination of skills and expertise to manage online communities.

I also make a distinction between social network platforms and online communities. Facebook, a social network platform, is not a community. Its focus is on facilitating connections and user generated content; the business itself doesn&#039;t do anything to facilitate community development other than provide tools for interaction. Communities are about relationship and history; within Facebook communities may form, but only where users are making that happen, and they could do that wherever the tools exist. In fact, many of the attempts at group-forming and community-building within Facebook don&#039;t work, as when someone creates a group there, then fails to do early and ongoing development work. (I&#039;m guilty of that, myself, but I know others who are building and finding effective communities within Facebook, where people stick within groups or causes, form relationships, and evolve a history of ongoing conversations.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wael, one quibble: neither I nor the material quoted above would suggest having a &#8220;marketing expert&#8221; in charge. The suggestion is to have someone on board who has expertise in community development and management. Marketing professionals &#8211; even those who who are associated with &#8220;interactive&#8221; marketing &#8211; usually won&#8217;t have the right combination of skills and expertise to manage online communities.</p>
<p>I also make a distinction between social network platforms and online communities. Facebook, a social network platform, is not a community. Its focus is on facilitating connections and user generated content; the business itself doesn&#8217;t do anything to facilitate community development other than provide tools for interaction. Communities are about relationship and history; within Facebook communities may form, but only where users are making that happen, and they could do that wherever the tools exist. In fact, many of the attempts at group-forming and community-building within Facebook don&#8217;t work, as when someone creates a group there, then fails to do early and ongoing development work. (I&#8217;m guilty of that, myself, but I know others who are building and finding effective communities within Facebook, where people stick within groups or causes, form relationships, and evolve a history of ongoing conversations.)</p>
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		<title>By: wael</title>
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		<dc:creator>wael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 05:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you about having a marketing expert to be in charge. But even with that in place, I have seen many social networks fail. I really still do not know the reason. if i was a betting man, i would say that Facebook will fail because of the very bad UI and how hard is it to figure things out on their site - but it was a success. I really do not know what it takes to make a site succeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you about having a marketing expert to be in charge. But even with that in place, I have seen many social networks fail. I really still do not know the reason. if i was a betting man, i would say that Facebook will fail because of the very bad UI and how hard is it to figure things out on their site &#8211; but it was a success. I really do not know what it takes to make a site succeed.</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; “Why most online communities fail”</title>
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		<dc:creator>&#187; “Why most online communities fail”</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 14:24:56 +0000</pubDate>
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